Review: La Granja

Introduction & Overview

Located in Mallorca, in the heart of the Serra de Tramuntana, La Granja de Esporles is a beautiful estate whose origins date back to the 10th century. In the 15th century, the estate included housing for workers, day laborers, and landowners, as well as facilities for the agricultural exploitation of an extensive territory of olive trees, vineyards, and wheat fields. Players will manage their farm, deliver goods to the market, and supply the village craft buildings to earn victory points.

This is the premise behind La Granja, designed by Michael Keller and Andreas Odendahl, marking the debut published title for both designers. The first edition was released in 2014 by Spielworxx, completely selling out its rather short print run even before arriving at Essen. Following this success, it received editions in several languages (English by Stronghold Games, French by Pearl Games, and Polish by G3). The artwork is handled by a classic illustrator, Harald Lieske, who previously demonstrated his talent in titles such as Power Grid, The Castles of Burgundy, Las Vegas, and Witch’s Brew.

In our country it is published by Ludosentinel fully in Spanish—an important aspect given that the game is language-dependent (there is text on the cards). It accommodates 1 to 4 players, with a recommended minimum age of 12 years and an approximate playing time of 90-120 minutes. The suggested retail price is €44.95. For this review, a copy of the Spanish edition by Ludosentinel was used.

Important: if you already know the game and/or are only interested in my opinion about it, you can go directly to the Opinion section. The Content and Mechanics sections are especially intended for those who do not know the game and prefer to get a general idea of how it works.

Components

Inside a two-piece cardboard box (lid and bottom) measuring 31.5×22.5×7.3 cm (a standard rectangular box similar to Agricola or Caylus), we find the following components:

Main Game Board (cardboard)
4 Farm Boards (cardboard)
66 Farm Cards
9 Dice (wood)
100 Octagonal Markers (25 in each color: red, yellow, blue, and green) (wood)
4 Discs (1 in each color: red, yellow, blue, and green) (wood)
16 Donkey Tiles (4 per player) (cardboard)
38 Silver Coins (cardboard)
24 Value 1
14 Value 3
66 Victory Point Tokens (cardboard)
22 Value 1 Victory Point
10 Value 3 Victory Points
10 Value 5 Victory Points
24 Value 10 Victory Points
4 Turn Order Tiles (cardboard)
24 Roof Tiles (cardboard)
24 Craft Tiles (cardboard)
3 Building Order Tiles (cardboard)
4 Reference Cards (cardboard)
Rulebook
Card Glossary

How to Play

La Granja is set on the island of Mallorca, where each player manages and develops an agricultural estate near the village of Esporles to supply the local market and craft guilds. Across six rounds comprising four phases each, participants expand their possibilities through multi-use cards that can be tucked under four different edges of their personal player board: as crop fields, farm extensions, delivery barrows, or helpers with special abilities. During the first phase, cards are played, income is collected based on upgrades, crops grow (olives, grain, and grapes), pigs breed if there are pairs in the pens, and roof tiles are purchased to grant victory points and one-time perks. Next, a common dice pool is rolled and players draft two dice in turn order to execute actions (resources, coins, advancements on the turn order track, or deliveries), while jointly resolving the final remaining die. The transportation phase begins with players secretly selecting a donkey tile that determines initiative on the siesta track as well as delivery capacity; in turn order, players transport goods to their personal wheelbarrows (which, upon completion, grant victory points, trade commodities, and presence in the central market, pushing out adjacent lower-value markers) or to the village’s six craft buildings, which unlock craft tiles offering immediate and recurring benefits. At any time, players may take free actions such as processing raw harvest into refined goods (wine, food, and cured meat), buying or selling resources, and trading commodity tokens to optimize deliveries. At the end of each round, points are scored based on standing on the siesta track and stalls held in the central market. After completing the sixth round, remaining resources and commodities are liquidated into coins and converted into final victory points, declaring the player with the highest total the winner.

Key Concepts

Let us begin with the Farm Board, individual to each player. Many diverse elements are featured:

In the top left corner, several grey spaces can be seen. The largest is meant for placing used donkey markers, while the smaller ones hold recurring victory point craft tiles.
Along the top edge, three stepped slots serve to tuck cards used as delivery barrows.
Below these slots sits the farmhouse, where purchased roof tiles will be placed.
In the top right corner, a reference table indicates the cost to play cards as farm extensions.
Underneath this reference box, three blue spaces are designed to hold commodity-related craft tiles.
Along the right edge, cards played as farm extensions are tucked. Moving from top to bottom, we find the following items:
- Player hand limit (initially 3, as printed on the board).
- Deliveries paid with coins (initially 1).
- The pig pen, which initially holds up to two pigs. Beside it lies the cured meat storage.
Along the bottom edge, three rectangular slots accommodate cards played as helpers.
On the left edge, storage spaces for harvest goods are located. Furthermore, cards played as fields will be tucked beneath this edge.
In the center of the board, we find the commodity storage area.

Turning our attention to the Main Board:

The left edge displays the six available actions determined by the dice rolled in each round.
At the bottom, to the right of the last action box, rests the roof tile supply, which also functions as a round tracker.
Along the right edge is the siesta track, which determines turn order and awards victory points at the end of each round based on each player’s standing.
Occupying the center of the board is the market. This is an array of numbered hexagonal spaces where players place market stalls according to the value of their completed delivery barrows.
Surrounding these spaces are the six craft buildings (with a bluish background and room for four markers). These buildings grant instant and recurring perks, requiring specific deliveries to be completed before construction is finished.

As previously mentioned, Cards form the backbone of the game. Players will have a limited hand size, although this limit can be expanded. Each card can be played in one of four distinct ways:

As a field: tucked under the left edge of the board, leaving only the card’s left side visible. This reveals 3 horizontal strips extending the tracks on the player board. Each strip corresponds to a crop type: olives (green), grain (yellow), and grapes (purple). Each card shows an octagonal space on one of these fields, generating resources whenever the space is empty.
As a farm extension: tucked under the right edge of the board, leaving only the right side exposed. This also shows three horizontal strips. Each strip corresponds to an upgrade: grey increases delivery capacity paid with coins, blue increases coin income each round, and brown expands pig pen capacity. Each card displays two of these three upgrades. Additionally, regardless of the icons shown, it increases the player’s hand size by one card.
As a delivery barrow: tucked at the top of the board, showing only the two rows associated with the wheelbarrow. The upper row shows octagonal spaces displaying required delivery goods, while the lower row shows the reward earned upon completing the delivery.
As a helper: tucked along the bottom edge, leaving only the worker’s text box visible. This text details the unique special ability granted to the player. Two brief details: if the card title is shaded in color, the benefit applies only during a specific phase of the round; if a red circle with “1x” appears in the lower-right corner, the ability may be triggered only once per round (marked by placing an octagonal marker on it, which is returned at the end of the round).

The Octagonal Markers have multiple uses, representing different elements depending on where they are placed:

A marker on a field or harvest storage space represents one unit of that crop (olives, grain, or grapes).
A marker in a processed goods storage space represents one unit of that type: food, wine, or cured meat.
A marker in the commodity space (center of the player board) represents a commodity token.
A marker on a delivery barrow card indicates a delivered good of the corresponding type.
A marker placed on a hexagonal market space represents a stall established after completing a delivery barrow.
A marker placed on a craft building requirement row indicates a delivered resource contributing to that building.
A marker placed on one of the four spaces in a craft building indicates that the building has been completed by that player.

Probably the most important item represented by these markers is commodities. These function as wild resources that can be exchanged for coins, harvest goods, pigs, processing actions, or drawing/playing cards. Commodities are obtained by fulfilling delivery barrows or generated periodically through certain completed craft buildings.

Speaking of craft buildings, when completed, they provide tiles granting both an immediate benefit and a recurring ability activated in every round thereafter. Furthermore, players score victory points depending on which round the building is finished. Note that not all craft buildings are available from the outset; half of them start locked, waiting for an available building to be constructed first. That is, for players to deliver to all 6 craft buildings, at least three buildings must have already been completed by someone.

Beyond these markers, players manage money as an additional resource. Coins serve various purposes: purchasing roof tiles, buying extra deliveries, fulfilling delivery requirements for certain craft buildings, paying costs to play farm extensions, upgrading goods into processed products (food, wine, and cured meat), or buying raw commodities (olives, grain, grapes, or pigs).

As noted earlier, players strive to accumulate as many victory points as possible. These are earned through various channels and are generally never lost, though they can be spent to cover costs when playing farm extension cards.

An essential concept, which we have already touched upon, is deliveries. Players must deliver diverse goods to sell and fulfill orders. Deliveries can be directed to in-progress delivery barrows or to craft buildings (filling their requirement rows). Deliveries are symbolized by donkeys. Each round, players can perform deliveries via four avenues: an action die, certain roof tile bonuses, donkey tiles, or paid deliveries (up to the limit allowed by their farm). Of these four avenues, the only one guaranteed for free each round comes from donkey tiles. These tiles always show four combined points split between siesta steps and delivery capacity. Available combinations include 4 deliveries; 3 deliveries and 1 siesta step; 2 deliveries and 2 siesta steps; and 1 delivery and 3 siesta steps. Each tile can be used twice throughout the game (at the start of round four, all used tiles are reclaimed).

As previously mentioned, during one phase of each round players execute actions dictated by dice, whose rolled values determine which spaces are active. Each player selects 2 dice from those remaining on the action spaces; the single unclaimed die is then resolved by all players simultaneously.

The siesta track serves as the mechanism for determining turn order. Siesta points are earned in three ways: dice actions, roof tile abilities, and donkey tiles. At a designated moment in the round, positions along this track are evaluated, and turn order markers are reassigned accordingly. In addition, at the end of each round, players receive victory points according to their position on the siesta track. Siesta points are represented by a hat icon.

Roof Tiles are small tiles that players may purchase at a specific point in each round. These tiles provide a one-time bonus of the player’s choice. Their cost increases progressively, equaling the number of the current round. The corresponding spaces on the farm board depict victory points that are awarded the moment the space is covered, filling from left to right.

That is enough to get started.

Preparación de la Partida

Place the main board in the center of the table.
Prepare the roof tiles for the game. For each value (1 through 6), take a number of tiles equal to the player count. Return the rest to the box. Stack them by value and place them on the designated spaces. Value 1 tiles are placed directly in the supply row for the first round.
Place one copy of each craft tile per player in the corresponding building spaces.
Take a number of dice equal to twice the player count plus one (2 players: 5 dice; 3 players: 7 dice; 4 players: 9 dice).
Create a general supply for victory points and coins.
Shuffle the farm deck and place it within reach of all players.
Place a 1-victory-point token on each craft building space.
Randomly select (by rolling a die) three craft buildings to receive a closed building tile alongside their victory point token.
Each player chooses a color and receives the 25 octagonal markers and 1 disc of that color. Place the disc on the starting space of the siesta track.
Each player also receives a farm board, 4 farm cards, 4 donkey tiles, 1 victory point token, and 1 coin. Additionally, place one octagonal marker on the commodity storage space.
Finally, determine the starting player and distribute turn order markers clockwise. In this turn order, players place a marker on the central market spaces. The first player places on space value 2, the second on value 3, the third on value 4, and the fourth on value 5.

We are ready to begin!

Game Flow

A game of La Granja lasts 6 rounds, with each round consisting of 4 phases.

Before diving into these phases, players should note three free actions that may be performed at any time during the game:

Trade Commodities: discard a marker from the commodity storage area and choose one of the following rewards:
- Gain 4 coins (taken from the supply).
- Gain 2 different harvest goods (grapes, grain, or olives), placing 2 markers in two distinct storage spaces.
- Draw/Play a card.
- Gain 1 pig (placed in an available stall in the pen).
- Process 2 resources for free (moving a marker from a field/storage/pen to the corresponding processed goods space).
Buy/Sell Resources: sell resources held in farm storage or pens (not processed goods or directly from fields) to gain coins indicated in green numbers. Alternatively, buy resources by returning coins indicated in red numbers to the supply.
Process Resources: move a marker from a field, storage space, or pen to the corresponding processed goods space by paying the coin cost indicated on the board to the supply.

Phase I: Farm

This phase consists of four steps:

Each player may play one card and refill their hand to their maximum limit. This step can be resolved simultaneously (ignoring turn order).
- Exception: during the first round, players may play 2 cards instead of 1 (which explains starting with one card above the initial hand limit).
In turn order, players refill their hand to their maximum hand limit (3, plus any farm extensions built).
Harvest and Breeding: any field with an empty octagonal space produces its corresponding harvest good (placing a marker from the player’s personal supply). Additionally, if a player has at least 2 pigs and room for more thanks to farm extensions, a piglet is born, adding an octagonal marker to an empty pen space. This step may also be carried out simultaneously.
Roof Tiles: in turn order, players may opt to purchase one available roof tile. The cost in coins equals the current round number. Players who purchase a tile place it on their farm board in the leftmost open roof space. If that space displays victory points, collect them immediately from the supply.

Phase II: Revenue

During this phase, the start player rolls all dice and assigns them to the action spaces on the main board according to their rolled values. Then, in turn order, each player drafts one die and immediately resolves its action, placing the chosen die on one of the two designated slots on their farm board. Once all players have drafted one die, repeat the process for a second die. Afterward, one unclaimed die will remain on an action space; all players resolve this action in turn order.

The available actions are:

Take a Pig. Place it into an open stall in the pen. If no room remains, it must be sold immediately for coins.
Play/draw a card or gain a harvest good. If played as a farm extension, pay the required costs. If a harvest good is chosen, place a marker in the corresponding storage space.
Gain two different harvest goods. Place two octagonal markers in two distinct crop storage spaces.
Gain 4 coins, taken directly from the general supply.
Process resources and/or advance on the siesta track. Choose one of three options: advance 2 spaces on the siesta track, process two resources for free (moving the octagonal marker from a field, storage space, or pen), or advance 1 space on the siesta track and process one resource.
Make a delivery or gain two coins. Delivering allows moving a marker to an active delivery barrow or craft building. Choosing coins grants them directly from the supply.

Phase III: Transportation

This phase is broken into four steps:

Selecting the donkey tile. Players secretly and simultaneously choose one available donkey tile from their hand (a tile played in a round remains unavailable for subsequent rounds, though all tiles return to hand at the beginning of round four).
Reveal all chosen tiles and advance on the siesta track accordingly (in turn order). Afterward, turn order markers are adjusted based on current standings on the siesta track (for discs sharing a space, the disc on top is considered ahead). From this point onward, play proceeds in this new turn order.
Resolve donkey deliveries. In turn order, each player executes all deliveries shown on their revealed tile by moving markers from their farm board to delivery barrows or craft buildings.
Once all tile deliveries are completed, players may purchase additional deliveries in turn order. Each extra delivery costs one coin, with the maximum allowable deliveries governed by farm extensions. By default, every player can purchase one additional delivery.

Delivery barrows and craft buildings are most commonly completed during this phase, though it can occur in other phases via actions, roof tiles, or card effects. When a delivery barrow or craft building is fulfilled, resolve it as follows:

Delivery Barrow: as soon as the final required good is placed on a delivery barrow card, it is completed. Carry out the following steps:
- The player gains one commodity token (placing an octagonal marker on the commodity space).
- Place a marker on an empty market space matching the value indicated on the fulfilled delivery barrow card, also gaining that same amount of victory points from the supply. If no open space of that value is available, remove an opponent’s marker from an occupied space of that value.
- Placing a marker on the market may trigger a chain reaction, knocking out opponent markers already in place. This occurs when an opponent’s marker occupies an adjacent space (sharing an edge) and has a lower numerical value than the newly placed marker. In that case, those markers are returned to their owners. For each marker removed this way, the active player scores one victory point.
- Retrieve all markers from the completed card and place the card into the discard pile.
Craft Building: as soon as the final delivery fills a craft building requirement row, it is completed. Proceed as follows:
- Take the matching craft tile and gain its immediate reward. Then, place the tile infinity-side up on the designated space of your farm board.
- Place one octagonal marker onto one of the 4 spaces in the building to indicate completion. Reclaim all other markers from the row.
- Collect victory points from the supply equal to the current round number.
- Additionally, the first player to complete that craft building claims the victory point token resting on it.
- Similarly, if it is the first completed building of that type and locked buildings remain, remove the lowest-numbered closed building tile (1, then 2, then 3) and collect the victory point next to it. From this point forward, deliveries can be made to this newly opened building.

Phase IV: Scoring

Follow this scoring sequence:

Each player scores one victory point for every personal marker they have in the market (craft buildings are excluded).
Each player also receives the victory points indicated on the segment of the siesta track they currently occupy. After scoring, return all discs to the track’s starting space.
Unless it is the final round, prepare the next round by discarding any remaining roof tiles from the current round and revealing the new set matching the upcoming round.

Game End

The game ends after resolving the final phase of the sixth round. At this stage, players convert all remaining resources they can into coins, followed by final scoring. Players add up:

Accumulated victory points throughout the game.
One victory point for every 5 coins held at the end of the game.

The player with the most victory points is declared the winner. In case of a tie, the victory goes to the tied player who has the most leftover coins after conversion. If the tie persists, victory is shared.

Variants

Solo Play: apply the following rules adjustments:

Setup:
- Prepare components for two players and use turn order tiles 2 and 3. Randomly draw one of these to determine the starting market positions of both players (human and AI player).
Gameplay:
- The player acts first if holding turn order tile 2. Holding tile 3 means the AI player takes the first turn.
- Action Phase: the player removes the lowest-value die during their turn (rounds 1, 2, or 3) or the highest-value die (rounds 4, 5, or 6).
- Transportation Phase: on the AI player’s turn, draw a card and place an AI marker on the market to bump off as many player markers as possible. If multiple options exist, choose the space where the AI marker would be hardest to knock out.
- Scoring Phase: reaching the third space on the siesta track allows the player to claim turn order tile 2. Otherwise, take tile 3.
The objective is simply to amass as many victory points as possible.

Personal Opinion

Here we are once again for a new review. Today it is time to put Ludosentinel’s first domestic release through the tocho-review wringer. This publisher has decided to bet on substantial eurogames that enjoyed international success and might otherwise have struggled to find a local release (Mombasa is coming soon). Let us see how that gamble turned out.

Odendahl and Keller’s design experienced a rather peculiar journey to market. In theory, it was slated for Essen Spiel 2014 with a fairly modest print run. However, the hype exploded and copies vanished prior to the fair, leaving it barely discussed on the convention floor while buzz centered on titles like Alchemists (here is its tocho-review). Many publishers jumped on board afterward, including Ludosentinel, who launched the game at a very competitive price in complete Spanish. That said, this second wave arrived during a quieter release window and never quite generated the widespread fanfare it rightfully deserved.

Spoilers ahead: La Granja is an excellent design that will thoroughly delight a specific breed of euro-enthusiast. Let us unpack why.

To begin with, we must examine the authors’ structural framework. In the rulebook itself, the designers provide a brief nod to the inspirations stitched into this mechanical Frankenstein. It is true that most contemporary designs share familiar design patterns, making genuinely unprecedented mechanisms rare. La Granja is certainly no exception.

The gameplay revolves around two major pillars: card management inspired by Carl Chudyk’s Glory to Rome, and resource management. Players strive to amass as many victory points as possible through multiple scoring vectors. Here, the influence of Stefan Feld shines through, calling to mind those expansive designs built around interconnected minigames unified by a core mechanism.

Let us focus on the cards first. If you skipped the rules breakdown above or are unfamiliar with the flow, each round is divided into distinct, clear-cut phases. During the first, attention centers on upgrading your modest farm. This is easily the most critical juncture of each round, largely dictating the strategic direction you pursue. A quick look at the game flow illustrates why.

Your main scoring sources stem from placing market stalls and completing craft buildings. Fulfilling both requires delivering various resources to their respective destinations, whether to wheelbarrows or the craft requirements grid. Naturally, this demands stockpiling goods beforehand across your board’s fields and storage spaces.

Deciding how to assign each card is therefore paramount. A standard opener involves tucking at least one starting card as a field to secure a steady harvest at the start of each round, although raw crops on fields can only be sent directly to wheelbarrows or buildings (in raw form or processed). Securing a helper to unlock operational flexibility is equally vital, while farm extensions and delivery barrows cannot be neglected if you hope to score well.

Knowing how to play each card matters immensely because the game moves at a breakneck pace, and before you know it, the final round arrives. Modern designs in this genre often feel rigid, trying to pack heavy mechanisms into tight timeframes and leaving players feeling guided down narrow paths. In contrast, La Granja stands out thanks to an exceptional versatility that sets it apart from the pack.

When reviewing certain eurogames—especially Stefan Feld designs—I often compare them to mathematical graphs where nodes are connected by various edges, and the player’s goal is to chart the most efficient route through that network. Most titles offer a couple of pathways per node. Here, to the delight of efficiency lovers, La Granja takes interconnectivity to another level, providing four or five distinct routes to acquire virtually any game element. Consider coins, which can be acquired via round income, specific roof tiles, action dice, commodity trade, dedicated coin-generating craft buildings, or selling warehouse goods.

Without this versatility, farm development would feel far more on-rails, whereas the game actually delivers a compelling tactical and strategic balance. Players are continually weighing long-term investments (farm extensions, breeding pigs, early craft buildings for cumulative perks) against short-term gains, such as rushing deliveries to cash in wheelbarrows.

Naturally, such flexibility comes at a cost. La Granja is not as accessible as it might appear at first glance. Navigating the sheer volume of details and moving parts requires careful tracking. Experienced hobbyists will take to it naturally, but anyone making the leap from lighter fare will hit a substantial wall. The dense iconography, complex web of connections, and quick round progression leave little breathing room to absorb it all. The wooden markers illustrate this perfectly: abstract wooden cylinders and octagons whose functional meaning changes entirely depending on where they land on the board. One could call it an extreme evolution of Carcassonne meeples, except that in the tile-laying classic they always represent workers scoring under different rules, whereas here they completely alter the underlying resource mechanics.

Regarding player count scalability, La Granja operates smoothly across all configurations, though the gameplay dynamic shifts noticeably. At two players, interaction dips slightly, as kicking opponents’ stalls out of the central market becomes far less frequent. At four players, by contrast, the market becomes a cutthroat battleground where players ruthlessly scrap for every extra point while undermining their rivals.

Luck also scales differently depending on player count, manifesting through two components: the card deck and the dice rolls. The deck’s variance remains constant across all player counts, but the dice pool behaves differently. In a two-player game, only 5 action dice are rolled, guaranteeing that at least one action will be unavailable each round. With four players, 9 dice are rolled, making complete action lockouts far less likely, even if certain values inevitably cluster together. In four-player games, one can count a bit more reliably on securing a desired action on their first draft pick. While luck is by no means game-breaking, it remains a variable that prudent planners must respect.

Another major highlight of La Granja is its sheer replayability. While the overarching flow remains familiar, the multi-use cards unlock radically divergent strategic avenues, particularly through helpers. A well-timed helper can generate a massive influx of points, and with over 50 unique cards in the box, the combinations will keep you entertained for dozens of plays.

Thematically, we return to the familiar pastoral setting of managing an agricultural estate. Parallels to games like Agricola (here is its tocho-review) or Village (here is its tocho-review) are faint at best, but the theme integrates smoothly with the underlying mechanics. Some may find it somewhat dry, yet compared to Feldian benchmarks, it exudes considerably more warmth.

Turning to production values, the overall quality is more than respectable. The cardboard tokens boast solid thickness and durability, complemented by the uniquely shaped player boards. The wooden pieces are standard fare without any particular flair. The cards are standard-sized, featuring a linen finish, good snap, and appropriate weight. While card handling is fairly minimal, protective sleeves are still recommended. One minor production quibble is card layout alignment: tucking cards under the player board edges still leaves the wheelbarrow rows faintly visible, which might trigger your inner perfectionist. Point tracking also feels clunky; victory points trickle in continuously, requiring players to hoard small cardboard chits face-down, leading to constant chip exchanges throughout the game. On the positive side, the rulebook is clearly organized, highlighted by an appendix that clarifies individual card effects thoroughly.

Harald Lieske’s artwork settles comfortably into the acceptable range. His illustration style has never fully captured my imagination, often leaning toward the uninspired. Even so, La Granja ranks among his least offensive efforts among the titles I have examined.

And let’s wrap this up. La Granja is a demanding design that blends resource management with multi-use cards, complemented by dice drafting and area control on a shared central board. The relentless drive to optimize every turn presents a brain-burning puzzle where tactical flexibility meets long-range foresight. Its crowning achievement lies in the tight interconnectivity between its components, offering multiple paths to achieve any given goal and avoiding artificial constraints to deliver a deeply satisfying feeling of control. Furthermore, the tussle for market control injects welcome player interaction that sharply punishes passive play. Conversely, that same flexibility and dense web of symbols can overwhelm newcomers, paired with fiddly end-of-round scoring and slight luck in card draws and dice pools. All in all, a tense and absorbing eurogame that richly rewards players who master its synergies. For all these reasons, I rate it a…